# Frame rate issues with new release and package

**URL:** <https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333>\
**Category:** Help\
**Created:** [January 28, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333 "2025-01-28T17:34:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![michael.hines](https://community.info-beamer.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v3/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@michael.hines](https://community.info-beamer.com/u/michael.hines)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333/1 "2025-01-28T17:34:23Z")

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This device works great:  
240713-383103 stable  
stable-0014

With the old version of the Video Player, I get 60 FPS looks great.

 ![image](https://community.info-beamer.com/uploads/default/original/1X/89466dd7d247f93461463e21d7e6082f875b3bca.png)

However this device:  
241217-d34b18 stable  
stable-0014

With an updated version of the Video Player (the old version wouldn’t work with this release and OS) I get a low (40s) frame rate and color artifacts. This is hardware independent. CPU is “shown” as high, although on the device, it shows (using “top”) as running in the 5% range.

 ![image](https://community.info-beamer.com/uploads/default/original/1X/45afa4cd7cbf0bed33f36b6c242061389ea16f83.png)

Any thoughts? Can I move to a previous version of the software? If so, where do I find it.

Thanks,

Michael

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**Author:** ![michael.hines](https://community.info-beamer.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v3/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@michael.hines](https://community.info-beamer.com/u/michael.hines)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333/2 "2025-01-28T18:03:01Z")

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I just realized that the issue is w/ the rotation. These screens are portrait and I have the player rotate 270. When I un-rotate, the artifacts and cpu issue goes away.

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**Author:** ![infobeamer-fw](https://community.info-beamer.com/user_avatar/community.info-beamer.com/infobeamer-fw/32/3_2.png) [@infobeamer-fw](https://community.info-beamer.com/u/infobeamer-fw)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333/3 "2025-01-28T18:20:03Z")

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Hm. For 90/270 degree rotations, the hacky method implemented in the older Broadcom closed source framework isn’t available any more and info-beamer has to use the only available method instead. This works fine and pretty fast on the Pi4 and 5, but it seems on your Pi3 it has quite a bit of overhead. I didn’t realize that. You can revert to the old method by disabling the new method:

Device detail page \> Edit configuration \> ☐ Use the modern method of interfacing with the video subsystem…

Saving will reboot once and it should use the older method. Does that make a difference?

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**Author:** ![michael.hines](https://community.info-beamer.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v3/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@michael.hines](https://community.info-beamer.com/u/michael.hines)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333/4 "2025-01-28T20:56:03Z")

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That worked great!

Thank you - made my day.

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**Author:** ![infobeamer-fw](https://community.info-beamer.com/user_avatar/community.info-beamer.com/infobeamer-fw/32/3_2.png) [@infobeamer-fw](https://community.info-beamer.com/u/infobeamer-fw)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333/5 "2025-02-25T19:03:51Z")

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6 posts were split to a new topic: [Pi4 troubles with 7 streams](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/pi4-troubles-with-7-streams/1338)

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**Author:** ![infobeamer-fw](https://community.info-beamer.com/user_avatar/community.info-beamer.com/infobeamer-fw/32/3_2.png) [@infobeamer-fw](https://community.info-beamer.com/u/infobeamer-fw)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.info-beamer.com/t/frame-rate-issues-with-new-release-and-package/1333/6 "2025-02-25T19:16:20Z")

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@michael.hines your bug report made me revisit the Pi3 method of placing 90/270 degree rotated videos on the screen. I’m happy to report that after a deep dive into the Pi3 hardware the performance has improved from 35 frame/second back to perfectly smooth 60. The change necessary was probably one of the most satisfying to add recently and I’ll probably write a separate post about that soon.

The `testing` version of the OS has these changes included, in case you’re interested in trying them out.
